Intersubjective Process

unconscious to unconscious

The intersubjective process — also rendered in clinical shorthand as the unconscious-to-unconscious dimension of analytic encounter — occupies a central and contested position within the depth-psychological corpus. Ogden's contributions are foundational here: his concept of the analytic third articulates the jointly created unconscious life of the analytic pair as a co-generated 'third subject,' one that neither analyst nor analysand authors individually. Reverie, for Ogden, is not merely private mental wandering but an unconscious intersubjective construction crystallized at the interface of two psyches. The field ranges well beyond Ogden, however. Schore's neurobiological work grounds intersubjective exchange in right-hemisphere-to-right-hemisphere affect transmission, giving organic specificity to what clinical theorists had previously described only phenomenologically. Wiener synthesizes Beebe and Lachmann's dyadic-systems perspective with Jungian sensibility, emphasizing that meaning is not discovered but dyadically created. Thompson and Gallagher, drawing on enactive and phenomenological traditions respectively, frame individual subjectivity as constitutively intersubjective from its ontogenetic origins — a position that challenges the solitary-mind assumptions of classical cognitivism. A key tension runs throughout: whether the intersubjective process is best understood as a medium of therapeutic transformation (Ogden, Wiener), a developmental substrate (Schore, Gallagher), or a philosophical condition of selfhood (Thompson, Husserl via McGilchrist). This entry maps that contested terrain.

In the library

the analytic enterprise as centrally involving an effort on the part of the analyst to track the dialectical movement of individual subjectivity (of analyst and analysand) and intersubjectivity (the jointly created unconscious life of the analytic pair—the analytic third)

Ogden defines the analytic enterprise itself as the tracking of a dialectical movement between individual subjectivity and the jointly created unconscious intersubjective third, establishing this process as the core of analytic work.

Ogden, Thomas, The Analytic Third: Implications for Psychoanalytic Theory and Technique, 1994thesis

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

Although the analyst's reveries are personal psychological events, I view them as unconscious intersubjective constructions generated by analyst and analysand.

Ogden argues that the analyst's reverie, however private it appears, is actually an unconscious intersubjective construction co-generated by the analytic dyad, making it an index of the intersubjective process.

Ogden, Thomas, Reverie and Interpretation, 1997thesis

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

projective identification involves a type of partial collapse of the dialectical movement of subjectivity and intersubjectivity, resulting in the subjugation (of the individual subjectivities of analyst and analysand) by the analytic third

Ogden reconceives projective identification as an intersubjective process in which individual subjectivities are partially subjugated by a mutually generated third, underscoring the co-created nature of unconscious exchange.

Ogden, Thomas, The Analytic Third: Implications for Psychoanalytic Theory and Technique, 1994thesis

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

the unconscious dialectical movement of individual subjectivity and intersubjectivity in the analytic setting... my experience as analyst... are contextualized by the intersubjective experience created by analyst and analysand

Ogden illustrates through clinical material how no thought or sensation of the analyst exists outside the intersubjective context co-created by the dyad, demonstrating the pervasiveness of the intersubjective process.

Ogden, Thomas, The Analytic Third: Implications for Psychoanalytic Theory and Technique, 1994thesis

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

Human beings have a need as deep as hunger and thirst to establish intersubjective constructions (including projective identifications), in order to find an exit from unending, futile wanderings in their own internal object world.

Ogden elevates the intersubjective process from a clinical technique to a fundamental human need, arguing that the unconscious intersubjective alliance is necessary for psychological development and change.

Ogden, Thomas, The Analytic Third: Implications for Psychoanalytic Theory and Technique, 1994thesis

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

meaning is not singularly discovered, but dyadically created... How the analyst feels, both 'in the body' and 'in the mind,' may be as important an indicator of what is going on in the patient as whatever the analyst is thinking.

Wiener, synthesizing Schore, Pally, and Beebe-Lachmann, argues that the intersubjective process operates through bodily and affective channels as much as through cognition, grounding dyadic meaning-creation in somatic experience.

Wiener, Jan, The Therapeutic Relationship: Transference, Countertransference, and the Making of Meaning, 2009thesis

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

experiences in and of the analytic third often generate a quality of intimacy between patient and analyst that has 'all the sense of real'... Such experiences involve feelings of enlivening humor, camaraderie, playfulness, compassion

Ogden extends the intersubjective process beyond pathological dimensions, noting that the analytic third also generates generative, enlivening forms of relatedness that may be therapeutically novel for the patient.

Ogden, Thomas, The Analytic Third: Implications for Psychoanalytic Theory and Technique, 1994supporting

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

Individual subjectivity is from the outset intersubjectivity, originally engaged with and altered by others in specific geological and cultural environments... Individual subjectivity is intersubjectively and culturally embodied, embedded, and emergent.

Thompson, drawing on enactive phenomenology, argues that intersubjectivity is not a secondary achievement but the constitutive ground of individual subjectivity, directly challenging the solitary-mind assumptions classical cognitivism relied upon.

Thompson, Evan, Mind in Life: Biology, Phenomenology, and the Sciences of Mind, 2007supporting

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

Dreaming and reverie always involve an unconscious internal discourse between 'the dreamer who dreams the dream and the dreamer who understands the dream'

Ogden traces the intersubjective process into the internal structure of dreaming itself, suggesting that even intrapsychic experience is organized dialogically, anticipating the analyst-patient dyad.

Ogden, Thomas, Reverie and Interpretation, 1997supporting

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

Husserl... became increasingly concerned with the relationship between psychology and philosophy... compelled, unawares, to derive the reality and ultimate importance of the right-hemisphere world

McGilchrist situates Husserl's intersubjectivity within his broader argument about right-hemisphere primacy, providing a neurological and philosophical frame for understanding why intersubjective process resists purely left-hemisphere articulation.

McGilchrist, Iain, The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World, 2009supporting

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

There exists in the newborn infant a natural intermodal coupling between self and other, one that does not involve a confused experience. Rather than confusion, a self-organizing collaboration between visual perception and

Gallagher demonstrates that the intersubjective process has ontogenetic roots in neonatal sensorimotor coupling, establishing that self-other coordination is a primal embodied fact rather than a cognitive achievement.

Gallagher, Shaun, How the Body Shapes the Mind, 2005supporting

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

The patient awaking from a nightmare has reached the limits of his capacity for dreaming on his own. He needs the mind of another person—'one acquainted with the night'—to help him dream the yet to be dreamt aspect of his nightmare.

Ogden frames therapeutic reverie as an intersubjective necessity when the patient's own dreaming capacity is exhausted, positioning the analyst's mind as a co-dreaming organ within the intersubjective process.

Ogden, Thomas, This Art of Psychoanalysis: Dreaming Undreamt Dreams and Interrupted Cries, 2004supporting

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

Arendt seems to have aspired to find in intersubjectivity a shared world of appearances.

A brief philosophical aside noting Arendt's aspiration toward intersubjectivity as a shared public world, relevant tangentially as a non-clinical reference point for the concept's broader philosophical valence.

Hannah, Barbara, Encounters with the Soul: Active Imagination as Developed by C. G. Jung, 1981aside

Dig deeper with Sebastian →

Related terms