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Menexenus
Menexenus
Menexenus is a work by Plato (-386).
Core claims
- The Menexenus is not a straightforward funeral oration but Plato’s most sustained demonstration that rhetoric, when severed from philosophical eros, manufactures a collective persona that forecloses genuine soul-making — a point depth psychology has yet to fully metabolize.
- Plato’s citation through Aspasia that “the earth is mother of all” (238a) is not mere patriotic cliché but a deliberate invocation of the autochthony myth whose psychological function Neumann identified as the pre-heroic bond to the maternal uroboros — Plato stages it precisely to expose how political speech regresses a polis to unconscious participation mystique.
- The dialogue’s framing device — Socrates reciting a speech composed by a woman (Aspasia) for public delivery by a man — constitutes an early dramatization of the anima as mediator of collective feeling, anticipating Jung’s insight that the ego borrows its most persuasive affective rhetoric from an unacknowledged feminine source within.
Related questions
- How does Plato’s staging of autochthony in the Menexenus compare to Neumann’s account of uroboric incest in The Origins and History of Consciousness, and what does this comparison reveal about the psychological function of national origin myths?
- Hillman argues in Re-Visioning Psychology that errancy and Necessity are fundamental archai of the soul — how does the Menexenus’s rhetorically perfect, error-free funeral oration represent the opposite danger: a speech that has expelled all errancy and thereby become psychically deadening?
- Edinger identifies Socrates’ daimonion as a function of the Self operating on the margin of consciousness — what does it mean that the daimonion is conspicuously absent from the Menexenus, where Socrates instead channels Aspasia’s rhetoric without any reported inner opposition?
See also
- Library page:
/library/ancient-roots/plato-menexenus/
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